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>> 250 million light years away from anybody's experience. >> paul: okay, remember, if you have your own hit or miss, please send it to us at and be sure to follow us on twitter at jer, on fnc. that's it for this week's show. thanks to my panel and all of you for watching, i'm paul gigot, hope to see you here next week. >> . >> jamie: on fox news watch. ambassador susan race made the rounds on capitol hill to try to spin her way out of trouble with her g.o.p. critics, it didn't go the way she hoped. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get. >> but the liberal media defending rice and denigrating her detractors. >> and the establishment folks, wrongly and repeatedly attacking a young are black woman after an election in which blacks and women went
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strongly blue. >> are any in the media concerned how this looks? >> my hope is to get this done before christmas. >> jon: president obama talking stuff and standing his ground as america approaches a fiscal cliff, and the immediate y media in his corn again. >> the new york times gets caught 40 questionable items about the conflicts in the middle east. and a british judge releases his report on the phone hacking scandal in the country and how did the media here react. and jay leno sees the light. >> this is very dangerous for the white house if they should start asking real questions. >> jon: on the panel this week, writer and fox news contributor judy miller. syndicated columnist, cal thomas. jim pinkerton, contributor. and kirsten powers. >> jon: i'm jon scott, fox
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news watch is on right now. ambassador susan rice asked for a face-to-face meeting with some of her most focal critics to make things better. the meeting took place and appears to have made things worse. >> rice herself asked for the meeting, but the effort to smooth things over didn't exactly work. >> for the first time she acknowledged her comments were wrong. >> susan rice has been depi depicted from everything as a thrown under the bus sacraficial lamb to a willing political accomplice. >> and ambassador susan rice meeting on capitol hill with some of her critics, how she wrongly characterized the attacks in benghazi on september 11th and as reported, the meeting did not clear things up. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get. >> i'm more troubled today knowing, having met with the
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acting director of the cia and ambassador rice. >> and more convinced than ever that it was unjustified to give the scenario as presented by ambassador rice and president obama before an election. >> the meeting with the senators getting all kinds of media attention and might have pressed for the press to get more from the white house as jay leno noted. >> and this week, cbs news became the first news organization besides fox to ask president obama who changed the benghazi talking points? >> yeah, this is very dangerous for the white house, and suddenly start asking real questions. >> so, what about it, jim, if jay leno is asking that question, does it mean that the press might be finally catching on? >> i think a couple of things are happening here, first of all, the campaign of sort of race baiting against john mccain led by richard wolf and
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tour, don't forget the accent mark. and the meeting with rice went badly and susan collins prides herself as a moderate thinks worse of you, you've done a bad job on the your presentation. and adam credo, the new website called the washington free beacon has millions of dollars in investments of companies linked to iran and rattled off the list and how she got confirmed as a u.n. ambassadorship and the romney campaign never noticing this as the issues of iran and weapons heating up and coming up in independent voices like the beacon, that maybe it will get-- it will derail her. >> jon: the media seem to be circling the wagons around here, judy. >> oh, yes, john mccain's
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racist theme has been picked up steam and regurgitated not just by people on nbc, "the washington post" editorial pointed out something astonishing to me, of the 90 people who signed the letter objecting to susan rice's nomination or potential nomination as secretary of state, 80 of them were male and about half of them came from states that used to have slaves a hundred years ago, and this was-- when this kind of reasoning gets into the mainstream media, we've got problems. >> jon: you know, the accusation directed the at senator mccain in particular, who voted to approve colin powell as secretary of state and condoleezza rice as secretary of state. >> it's trshgs do you have remember that john mccain used to be the darling of the left and he's been somebody always, front and center on immigration reform, not usually something racists do, and you know, now, suddenly, we're told that this man who
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as been in the public eye for as long as i've been alive, i feel like, is suddenly a racist and they have no problem saying that and this is an extremely toxic and dangerous trend that's happening and i think that people should be very concerned that this is now the argument that people make. >> we've come a long way baby, and i still remember just before the civil rights movement when racists and masog masogyists. whatever happened to content of character not color of skin, you can't criticize susan race because she's black and female, what are the rules. >> jon: and we thought we'd play it clip for you from the msnbc anchor. >> mccain tried to make her unnominatable, and would look
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weak. and mccain inappropriate political attack and gave us the horrible optics of he and lindsey graham as old white establishment folks wrongly and repeatedly attacking a younger black women and moments when they went strongly blue. >> jon: and claims that mccain went on a witch hunt and tarring the ambassador in the press. that's quite a loaded word. >> so many words that he can say that for some reason i can't say. next time we hear the usual suspects in the review and denouncing rush limbo, remember, they were stone cold silent most likely so far on all of this race baiting going on on the rice-mccain issue. >> jon: what about the real issues what are the real issues that the media should be raising here? >> this has been an indictment not just of the politicians who make these charges and remember, this is where it
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started because congressional black caucus representatives made the charge that senator mccain was racist, but, it's also an indictment of a totally incurious press. i mean, where are most reporters on important questions, issues of fact like what happened in benghazi, what happened before? why was there so little security. what did they do? what did they say they did after the fact? we still don't know. >> and where was president obama for all of us. >> probably afraid of being called racist, truly, that's what it's turned into, i think, people, the setup, if you oppose susan rice, you're a racist, not that there could be legitimate questions, not that senators don't oppose p nominees utility time. and nothing that they've said in spades about john bolton. am i allowed to say that. >> you're being anti-mustache. >> are the media cheering for
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a leap off the fiscal cliff? >> republicans are committed to continuing to work with the president to come to an agreement to avert the so-called fiscal cliff. >> as both sides in washington try to hammer out agreements on taxes and fiscal spending, they get the full media treatment as the press try to pin the blame on the g.o.p. is it working? details next on news watch. okay, here's the plan. you have a plan? first we're gonna check our bags for free, thanks to our explorer card. then, the united club. my motr was so wrong about you. next, we get priory boarding on our flight i booked with miles. all because of the card. and me. okay, what's the plan? plan? mm-hmm. we're on vacation. there is no plan. really? [ male announcer ] the united mileageplus explorer card. the mileage card with speci perks on united. get it and you're in.
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>> our ultimate goal is an agreement that gets our long-term deficit under control in a way that's fair and balanced. and that kind of agreement would be good for our businesses, it'd be good for our economy, it would be good for our children's future and i believe that both parties can agree on a frame work that does that in the coming weeks. in fact, my hope is to get this done before christmas. >> so right now, all eyes are
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on the white house. the country doesn't need a victory lap, it needs leadership. it's time for the president, congressional democrats to tell the american people what spending cuts they're willing to make and we'd like to thank the president for adopting the fox news slogan there and as we get closer to the fiscal cliff, both sides seem to be standing tough and what about the coverage, jim in. >> i think the debate overall that began with simpson bowls saying we should roughly have tax cuts, tax increases, pardon me, and spending cuts and so the media narrative is sort of, can we get simpson bowls through a recalcitrant republican congress? and what's changed though, i think it's really a role call, daniel new house and mary anne shiner, says simpson and bowls are no longer part of the discussion and it's now morphed into the tax increase
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and democrats lost interest in the taxing and can we put them on compromise on simpson-bowles and i think so far, the media with exception of a few reporters haven't caught on, but we see charles krauthammer, andrea tantaros, watch out. you're being snookered. >> and pushing republicans towards tax increases and john boehner said we're up for revenue-- >> as several have pointed out the democrats won the election and that means that there are consequences and financial consequences that flow from that, and if the president wants 1 trillion 600 billion dollars worth of new revenue which the wall street journal was one of those to point out in the editorial he's entitled to get it at least what the democrats think and therefore, the republicans are on the defense. >> worth pointing out though that the republicans still won
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those, the majority in the house so they won an election, too, and the president, what strikes me as odd, the president campaigned on the tax increase proposal for the highest, you know, the highest couple of percentage of american taxpayers, that would raise, as i understand it, about 850 billion dollars, but he comes out with this proposal that's twice that so he's doubled down on the tax increase that he has. >> he has the upper hand which i actually think he does have the upper hand because every poll that i've seen has most people, including republicans think we should raise taxes on the wealthy. so, in that sense, i think that it is being covered accurately, the problem is, will the president's feet be held to the fire in terms of the other part of the revenue cuts, not just revenue raised and the spending cuts, not just revenue raising which so far isn't happening and probably get away with kicking the can down the field. >> john, there's a terrific
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bias in favor of government and i give you this example. when the debate about, whether to eliminate the mortgage interest deduction was being bandied about this week in washington, "the washington post" had this line, that would cost the government, the elimination of the mortgage deduction, 100 billion dollars a year. so, it's all about the government, what it costs the government. what about what it costs the taxpayers, the people who make give to these bozos to waste. >> i thought we were the government. >> exactly. >> i'm trying to figure out where cal is coming from. >> yeah. but the president, you know, was out in philadelphia on friday, and he seems to be sort of, continuing the campaign almost as if he didn't win the election and the media are playing-- >> again, look, there's no question the media are trying to push the republicans toward a deal although there's a significant backlash against it. look, the president is campaigning, he's campaigning, just like he's kept going, but it worked for him and before november 6th why should he stop now? >> all right, more news watch
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ahead. if you see something that you feel shows evidence of media bias, tweet us at fox news watch on twitter. next, the new york times breaks a key rule in journalism. >> covering the conflicts in the middle east, a real challenge for reporters to get the facts right. but are some reporters using bow gas reports to tell them made up stories? find out next on news watch. [ male announcer ] red lobster's crabfest ends soon. hurry in and try five succulent entrees, like ourender snow crab paired with savory garlic shrimp. just $12.99. come into red lobster and sea food differently. and introducing 7 lunch choices for just $7.99. of green giant vegetables it's easy to eat like a giant... ♪ and feel like a green giant. ♪
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>> the dangerous job of reporting on wars and conflicts has been a topic on this program many times. according to the international press institute.
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119 journalists have been killed this year, a statistic noted by david carr, media reporter by the new york times. in his article titled "using war as cover to target journalists", he also wrote on tuesday, november 20th, three employees of news organizations were killed in gaza by israeli missiles. rather than suggesting it was a mistake or denying responsibility, an israeli defense forces spokeswoman, the lieutenant told people were relevance to terror activity. why is this guy getting criticized? >> he's getting criticized appropriately, jon, he has confused people idf perhaps didn't say it explicitly enough for mr. carr accused of being terrorists. now, let's be straight here, you can have a journalist who has strong opinions about how terrible what israel is doing in gaza. you can have a journalist who says, we've the got to defend
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israel. what you can't have is someone who is a member of a terrorist organization working for a news organization that is branned as an arm of that terrorist organization, masquerading as a journalist and complain when the israelis target that journalist and that what happened. and two of the people whom he pointed out as being journalists actually one of them is a card carry member of islamic jihad who didn't pretend to be a journalist and the second was a member of hamas, with a sign on the top. this is use journalists as shields. >> i like his defense, i ran it by my colleagues in the shop and reminded me of larry king, when there was a bias in the news and larry would say any of you biased, no, let's settle it they be. >> jon: and carr asserts, as
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news media organizations become increasingly politicized all journalists risk ending up as collateral casualties because they're working adjacent to outlets viewed of perveyors of propaganda. legitimate fear there? >> no, i don't think it is. i mean, i think these are some pretty-- look, i'm not somebody who i think is considered assume pro israel person, not anti-israel, but not one who will apologize for everything they do and i think this, this crosses the line in terms of accusations. i think it's fine to criticize some for humanitarian problems and so on, but i think this goes far and as judy said, the evidence to back it up, and i wish people can admit when they're wrong. look, he made a mistake, he should just say he's wrong. if he got information from somebody they thought it was reliable, made a mistake, it happens, he should take responsibility. >> the challenge is who a journalist, and all the time,
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bloggers, are they able to benefit from shield laws. what do we do, in yemen, and everybody in al-qaeda who says many' a journalist account, and twitter account and contributing to al-jazeera or al-qaeda tv. this has to be sorted out otherwise it's going to keep happening. and we're in a situation where the combat and the journalist and the innocent civilian are probably within a few yards of each other and who gets killed? >> and also this week, lord justice brian levinson, the phone hacking scandal of the british tabloids and news of the world, a now closed paper, formerly owned by the parent company of this network, and hacked into phone for the stories they pedaled and it was much larger and other blish tap tabloids. in the report, accused the newspapers for acting
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recklessly and having no record for privacy and made recommendations for the media including an independent word to watch over the media ander sure they're free of any influence from industry and government. concerned about freedom of the press were raised immediate aline we'll continue to watch aline we'll continue to watch this story and report [ male announcer ] when was the last time something made your jaw drop? campbell's has 24 new soups that will make it drop over, and over again. ♪ from jammin' jerk chicken, to creamy gouda bisque. see what's new from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. a new way to save on your prescriptions. it's the aarp medicarerx saver plus plan from unitedhealthcare. with this plan, you can get copays as low as a dollar
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>>. >> jon: we end with the news watch from the lost in translation file. the onion described as the
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finest news source is a satirist organization. the onion captured the headline perfectly. black man given nation's worst job. in the latest edition. named north korea the sexiest man for 2012. pretty funny but it gets funny yes, sir than that. the people of daily china's largest legitimate newspapers picked up the story and ran it for real along with 50 pictures of the guy. sarcasm totally lost on the chinese editors. with his devastating round face and strong sturdy fame. he a heartthrob is everyone's dream kon come true. a cute cuddly side. he made the edito


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